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David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 18:48:00 - [1] Edited by: David Kang on 17/02/2009 18:49:08 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I really hope PB don't screw this up. If they lose this case, it'll be open season on all torrent sites. And google. All piratebay does is search for keywords like google its a search engine thats it. it host no illegal content. just show the judge and jury google, do a search for Guns and roses torrent and you will get the same effect.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:37:00 - [2] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: David Kang Edited by: David Kang on 17/02/2009 18:49:08 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I really hope PB don't screw this up. If they lose this case, it'll be open season on all torrent sites. And google. All piratebay does is search for keywords like google its a search engine thats it. it host no illegal content. just show the judge and jury google, do a search for Guns and roses torrent and you will get the same effect. As far as I'm aware, the .torrent file itself IS hosted on the PB website. And that file enables people to share copyrighted material. IANAL, so I don't know the details and technicalities of the case, but I don't think PB's case is watertight. More's the pity. Technically (if I am not mistaken~) the torrent file is nothing more then a tracker from which the data is pulled from. No files etc are kept on the piratebays server.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Pirate bay is a facilitator pure and simple they help people access the materials needed for copyright theft, claiming they never have infringed materials on their servers doesn't change the fact they are accomplises to a crime as they arrange the "meeting" place. If somebody arranges access to child ** that's illegal even if they never see the material and helping people to buy drugs is illegal even if they never hold the drugs and the same is true for money laundering and the selling of stolen goods. Its called an Usage policy Linked from piratebay herself Quote:** The responsibility lies upon the user to not spread malicious, false or illegal material using the tracker. We do not censor but we do block people that use our service wrongfully (i.e. commercial organisations that have not cleared the usage with us first). They right there have just washed there hands. A User uploads any torrent which contains any illegal content. and it is the users fault, piratebay is not to blame You agree to that policy when you upload.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:30:00 - [4] Originally by: Doctor Penguin A city council decides to build a small public park. Once they have finished this and opened it to everyone, a drug dealing gang start using it as a private place to sell and use their drugs. By the arguement that TPB is guilty by association or somehow facillitating a crime, that would mean the city council was guilty of drug dealing. (To explain, the public park is TPB. Anybody can go in, and nobody looks to see who's actually in there, because it's a public park and everyone has allowed to be there. The drug dealers are the copyright breakers - whilst they use the park as a base, it is not the park's fault that they're dealing drugs in it.) Bingo! So if Piratebay goes down.. so must google and all other internet search engines (parks) So yeah piratebay is going to be around for a LONG TIME
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 21:11:00 - [5] Edited by: David Kang on 17/02/2009 21:16:02 Edited by: David Kang on 17/02/2009 21:13:57 Originally by: EliteSlave Originally by: Doctor Penguin Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 17/02/2009 20:29:49 A city council decides to build a small public park. Once they have finished this and opened it to everyone, a drug dealing gang start using it as a private place to sell and use their drugs. By the arguement that TPB is guilty by association or somehow facillitating a crime, that would mean the city council was guilty of drug dealing. (To explain, the public park is TPB. Anybody can go in, and nobody looks to see who's actually in there, because it's a public park and everyone is allowed to be there. The drug dealers are the copyright breakers - whilst they use the park as a base, it is not the park's fault that they're dealing drugs in it.) Incorrect my friend... A park is a place built to facilitate legal activities.. A website that is setup full well knowing that it will facilitate Illegal activities is thus Illegal and Guilt by Association. The piratebay is not set-up to facilitate Illegal activities. Source piratebay About Quote: The Pirate Bay is the worlds largest bittorrent tracker. Bittorrent is a filesharing protocol that in a reliable way enables big and fast file transfers. Bittorrent and piratebay are GREAT for the open source community to share (legal) software, resource and books. As well as lessening the loads on game servers (getting the eve-online client from piratebay isn't illegal). Before you make said comment.. please provide proof that the piratebay (just a funny name) is connected and or promoting the download of illegal software and music?. You may be aware or heard there off, Illegal activity taking place which is subject to individual users and against the usage policy. There usage policy covers them on this account.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.17 21:15:00 - [6] Originally by: mamolian Originally by: EliteSlave A website that is setup full well knowing that it will facilitate Illegal activities is thus Illegal and Guilt by Association. and a tracker website is made to facilitate illegal activity? What the christ are you smoking. Theres vast amounts of stuff available on your average tracker site that is perfectly legal. And as for TPB being closed for hosting text files with information pointing to other computers with the content.. Its about as illegal as hyperlinks.. Re Read my post.. I was using that as analogy of WHY they cannot get shut down
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.19 16:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Originally by: Xelios If hosting links to illegal content is deemed illegal then a large portion of the internet is going to be in serious trouble. I can't wait to see how Google would respond to that. jesus christ the last thing we need is them ****ing off Google and Google's robotroops invading various nations capitals over this. (they exist, trust me) We are google. Lower your firewall. Your biological and technological distinctivness will be added to our own. Resistance if futile. Obey google.

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